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Another project with musicians from the desert?. Not exactly. This time, along with Gary Arce (Yawning Man, Ten East), Mario Lalli (Fatso Jetson, Yawning Man) and Bill Stinson (Ten East) we are proud to introduce two American punk legends: Greg Ginn (Black Flag) and Jack Brewer (Saccharine Trust)!. Without these two men we probably never would have heard of bands like Sonic Youth, Nirvana or Kyuss (to name just a few). So, this is NOT another desert band project. This is the ultimate project of the American punk. This is the album that the 'weak-MTV-pussy' punk scene needs. The fathers have come to say a few things, and be sure they have a few things to say. What will you find here? Gary Arce's guitar work on the Perfect Rat is more like patterns with sort of an angular weird punk jazz, very unlike Yawning Man.... a side a Gary's guitar playing that is so unexpected like a Sort Of Quartet style, hard jazz patterns, distorted guitar, way different and cool... Mario Lalli joined the mix so the music had a really trippy mix with two guitars, definitely psychedelic and actually some was very moody, swirling psychedelic's Gary and Mario together are like two siamese twins musically! Greg Ginn (now on bass) develops a very rhythmic, steady player that finds that area between steady structure and jazz type freak outs....rock punk jazz bass! Bill Stinson's drumming is more rock drumming with some jazz influences, and Jack Brewer has a very beat poet free form cool style....